Appointment of Social Moderators - page 2

 
gordon:
Well we are supposed to be 'social moderators' so I think it's up to all of us (I mean this whole community and not just the moderators). We can use this thread to outline these guidelines... I have my own opinions... But really got to go now. Later.
One down, eight hypothetical examples to go: https://www.mql5.com/en/forum/126836. Is this or isn't this allowed? You're the one with the launch codes, so to speak.
 
jjc:
One down, eight hypothetical examples to go: https://www.mql5.com/en/forum/126836. Is this or isn't this allowed? You're the one with the launch codes, so to speak.

If it were a democracy, I would vote no. Personally, if it doesn't add to (or repeat) my knowledge of something in the book, the terminal or the codebase it doesn't belong.

V

 
jjc:
One down, eight hypothetical examples to go: https://www.mql5.com/en/forum/126836. Is this or isn't this allowed? You're the one with the launch codes, so to speak.


If we had sections in this forum, this would be off in a folder somewhere
IMHO, if the user is getting source code this is OK - but I am watching it...

BTW, we have no remit to change or add 'rules', merely use best endeavours to.. er.. moderate things, i.e. I/we are only looking to cull the unambiguous 'promotion only' posts

-BB-

 
BarrowBoy:

If we had sections in this forum, this would be off in a folder somewhere
IMHO, if the user is getting source code this is OK - but I am watching it...
BTW, we have no remit to change or add 'rules', merely use best endeavours to.. er.. moderate things, i.e. I/we are only looking to cull the unambiguous 'promotion only' posts

The folder system from the MQL5 forum would indeed be nice. But without all the other UI changes which are a step backwards.

In this case the user isn't getting anything for free (other than a free trial), and they're only getting source code with the more expensive Pro version. The difficulty is that the rules as they stand are hopelessly vague, and in effect you have to add to the rules, on a case by case basis, in order for them to be enforced and enforceable. But, personally, I don't mind these kinds of post. Though I do potentially have a vested interest in this area.

The trouble with Viffer's statement/example is that everyone has possible exceptions. The Molanis tool could potentially be of interest and use to many people on the forum, particularly newbies. In Viffer's case, it might be something like a plugin which made the existing MT4 strategy tester multi-asset, or 100 times faster. If such a tool existed, I'd like to know about it. And I'd expect to have to pay for it.

 
jjc:
One down, eight hypothetical examples to go: https://www.mql5.com/en/forum/126836. Is this or isn't this allowed? You're the one with the launch codes, so to speak.

I was wondering about that... Don't know. They gave me the launch codes, but the only rules are the ones here -> https://www.mql5.com/en/users/register. Seems to me that post falls under section 4:

4. Posting of advertising messages is forbidden. Such messages will deleted.

 
And another candidate -> https://forum.mql4.com/33080. Since this is the 2nd (almost) identical post by this user -> https://www.mql5.com/en/forum/126761, seems to me this would certainly fall under 'spam'...
 

I say the social moderators use discretion: I don't have a problem with the Molanis tool provided they're giving away something free, even if they have other paid services. Second, it depends on the manner the promoter presents the tools. If its in "Extra,Extra,Buy all about it Format" then yep {delete}.

 

What I have a problem with is "Any discussions except of concerning MetaQuotes Language 4 and auto trading are forbidden. Such topics will be deleted.". Slippery slope, is it talking about the original topic or the additional comments it morph into?  

 
gordon:
And another candidate -> https://forum.mql4.com/33080. Since this is the 2nd (almost) identical post by this user -> https://www.mql5.com/en/forum/126761, seems to me this would certainly fall under 'spam'...
Personally I'd ban these under rule 1, rather than invoking the much thornier rule 4 (or 5). They've got nothing to do with auto trading. Manual technical and fundamental analysis is more or less its antithesis.
 
gordon:
And another candidate -> https://forum.mql4.com/33080. Since this is the 2nd (almost) identical post by this user -> https://www.mql5.com/en/forum/126761, seems to me this would certainly fall under 'spam'...


Yes, the MQL community roundly ignored these :)
These would be toast under the new regime :)

-BB-

 
BarrowBoy:

Yes, the MQL community roundly ignored these :)
These would be toast under the new regime :)

There are conceivable rules which would cut much of the spam while having few detrimental effects, and which could in fact be automated. For example, until a user has, say, 10 posts on the forum:

  • Can't post messages containing hyperlinks
  • Can't post messages containing domain names, even if they're not hyperlinks (including a watch for whitespace such as "MySuperSignalSite .com")
Clearly the user would need to be told that this restriction was in place, and why. There'd be very occasional instances where this prevented a useful and legitimate comment, but mostly it's just going to trap spam. However, might need a throttle on messages from new users, to prevent them posting 10 junk comments in order to be able to post an eleventh containing their clickable advert. Could use a time-from-signup filter instead of or as well as a number-of-posts filter.
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